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 Post subject: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:29 pm 
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After weeks of carefully sowing and marking the 16 diff varieties Bob (Deluxstogie) sent me, building a poly tunnel, watering, caring for my seedlings, working out my diff blends on my laptop, getting all excited, the neighbours cat got in my tunnel this morning, tipping my seedling trays on the floor. All my plants on the floor, mixed. Putting me back a whole year, and all the neighbour said was sorry!!!! :evil: :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:03 am 
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Plant what you can save even if you don't know the variety. It'll give you some experience for next year and you'll still be able to smoke the stuff you grow.


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:03 am 
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Many of the varieties I sent can be distinguished by their appearance, once they have grown a bit.

This is a list of the varieties, and my attempt at an identification key.
{"petiolate" indicates a stem separating the stalk from the leaf lamina; "sessile" indicates the leaf lamina merging with the stalk}

Shirazi (medium-height, distinctive cupping of leaf tips)
Bafra
Samsun
Kelly
Little Dutch
CT Broadleaf
PA Red
Comstock Spanish
Zimmer Spanish
FL Sumatra
Perique
Hickory Pryor
Xanthi-Yaka 18a
Smyrna #9
Izmir Ozbas
Bahía

Small-leafed, columnar plants, sessile:
  • Izmir Ozbas (displays a distinctive rim at leaf margin)
  • Smyrna #9
  • Xanthi-Yaka 18a (smaller leaf than Smyrna #9)

Large-leafed, columnar plants, sessile:
  • Bahía (shorter, less vigorous)
  • Florida Sumatra (over 6 feet tall, secondary veins at 90º)

Heart-shaped or spade-shaped leaf, columnar plants, petioate:
  • Samsun
  • Bafra (somewhat smaller and more delicate than Samsun)

Ox tongue leaves:
  • Little Dutch (~3 feet tall)
  • Pennsylvania Red (ultimately much taller than Little Dutch)

White stem; early yellowing of lower leaves:
  • Kelly Burley

Vigorous, broad-leafed, pointed, rumpled surface (Orinoco-type):
  • Hickory Pryor
  • Perique (Hickory Pryor and Perique are indistinguishable while growing)
  • Connecticut Broadleaf (thick, dark green, shorter stalk, broader leaf)

Spanish-type (medium, thick, smooth, ovate leaves with blunt point):
  • Comstock Spanish
  • Zimmer Spanish (these two are indistinguishable while growing)


Bob


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:37 am 
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Thanks Bob,
It will help a lot, thought this morning I must re-sow, but hell, even if I can identify half of the seedlings it will be ok.
The ones I cant identify I will plant to one side and call it potluck, will still enjoy the cigars.
Will ask the mrs to help me replant them.
But cats beware :twisted:

Ben


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:39 am 
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Hello,

I sympathize with you. Neighbors can be bastards!

A couple of weeks ago my neighbor's gardener decided to spray their side of the fence with a nice fresh coat of green paint. Guess what? Yep, all my plants that were positioned along the fence got covered in green paint!

At first I thought my plants had developed some kind of disease, but then it dawned on me that the fool next door must have held his spray gun upwards when he was spraying the top of the fence.

All the neighbor said was, "Oh, it will wash off."

I'm worried now because it doesn't wash off easily, so I'm having to scrub them with a damp cloth. I'm worried about the sap, resin, or whatever else I might be washing off as well.

Anyway. Best of luck with your identification.


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:48 am 
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thirtynine wrote:

All the neighbor said was, "Oh, it will wash off."



Sounds like your neighbor is a F#@$ing moron!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:45 am 
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Sounds like your neighbor is a F#@$ing moron!!!!!!


Yes, I agree.


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:52 am 
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You might want to have a look at the ingredients list on the paint container, to make sure there are no serious toxins in it. Some fence paints contain wood preservatives and other compounds that are forbidden near vegetable gardens.

Bob


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 Post subject: Re: Catastrophe
PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:41 am 
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Thanks Bob.

They showed me a print of the label before they sprayed the fence. I'm sure they didn't give my plants a thought but they know that we have a dog, so they showed us the label to show that it is safe for pets.

It's Cuprinol One Coat Sprayable Fence Treatment.

After your comments, I decided to look it up on the net for any more information, and it says that it is safe for plants. Nevertheless, it still should not have been sprayed in such a way as to send so much paint over to our side.

Thanks again.


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