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 Post subject: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:33 pm 
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I might be able to get this cheap...
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And it may not even be worth that much!

Anyone had any experience with this brand of tiller?

This one is badged Montgomery Wards, but was made by Gilson, which is now bought out by Toro, I think...
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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:45 am 
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I would be willing to go as high as $5.00.


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:02 am 
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Gilson was one of the best built machines ever made. They made mowers and tillers and they were all built like tanks. Parts are still readily available for most of the riding mowers. I'm not sure about the tillers.

Any idea what might be wrong with it?


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:44 am 
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A lot of oil,greese,and Maybe replace some belts , Maybe a frozen cable.
Rest is all in engine .can see carb.needs help. Look at tines and see if you can move them by hand. , If can turn engine by hand .It can be repaired. Good luck Lee


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:30 am 
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Tnx guys! That's encouraging.

All I can tell now is that tank has been removed because it was full of water which sludged the carb.
The bolo tines seem very thin, the tires almost completely worn out, and the top shaft of the rear gearcase seems like the bearing on one side is sloppy. Of course the belts must be replaced.
All the idler pulleys seem ok.

$50 is what he wants to get away from it...

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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:37 am 
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Aw, Heck!
Just what I need... more projects !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQL1gZodjgs

and this one...

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fun stuff!
:-)
rc


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:28 pm 
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rustycase wrote:
Tnx guys! That's encouraging.

All I can tell now is that tank has been removed because it was full of water which sludged the carb.
The bolo tines seem very thin, the tires almost completely worn out, and the top shaft of the rear gearcase seems like the bearing on one side is sloppy. Of course the belts must be replaced.
All the idler pulleys seem ok.

$50 is what he wants to get away from it...

Tnx
rc

$50 bucks is 45 bucks too high


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:55 pm 
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"$50 bucks is 45 bucks too high"

lol

Well, I think you are right, to be honest...

It's the kind of deal most people would give away, or even pay someone to haul off for them.

...but... I could wait round to find a free one, go look at a bunch of cheapo ones, (and spend a bunch of fuel doing it), or I just decided to get this one, because it was ez enough. I also like the simple drive systems on it that are totally rebuildable.

I got it from a friend who repairs things to earn a few bucks here and there... older than dirt retired fellow and he has forgotten more than I will probably ever learn... He helps me solve any number of problems.
SO, I gotta do my part and leave something behind, at least once and a while!

and... if it doesn't work out well for me, I'll ask him about the warranty... just to tick him off! lol
crotchety old bart that he is... :-)

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rc


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
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good luck


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:11 pm 
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Tnx drbob!

I could use all the luck I can get!

My old buddy once told me it's better to be lucky than to know what you are doing...
Well, I don't know much, and had to work real hard for everything I ever had.
Seems like it's always an uphill battle!

Some people are lucky. Everything just seems to fall into place for them.
It wasn't me! lol
I learned by making mistakes.

Throwing good money after bad seems to come up in conversation, regularly. :-)

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rc


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:29 pm 
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I got a lawn mower for sale. I wish you lived close by.


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
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drbob wrote:
I got a lawn mower for sale. I wish you lived close by.


lol

Yah, I'm a sucker for a yardsale...
Can NOT pass up a deal.
On anything!

...but I was not able to plunk down cash on the barrelhead...
I finagled a deal based on my good credit... lol ...and his desire to rid himself of a problem. :-)

Actually, he's got 4 or 5 more, in various states of dis-repair, and also that many lawn tractors in the same shape.
...He went to some sort of auction, locally, with a bundle in his pocket and came away much lighter in the wallet.
So I'm helping him recover...


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:06 am 
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I finally managed to drag the Gilson tiller back to the house.

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I have already cleaned out the carb using kitchen vinegar.
Soaked it in a baggie for 3 days, then scrubbed it a bit with a toothbrush.
It came out pretty well, and I think it will work.

The internal diaphragm gasket is pretty stiff, so I'm gonna soak that in brake fluid for a day and see if that brings some life back to it. Otherwise I'll probably need to buy one.

I'm busy dripping diesel on all the nuts, bolts, and screws on the tiller in preparation for fixing whatever else is wrong with it.

Garden still producing, so not quite ready to till everything under...


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
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RC, That's going to be a mighty fine beast when you get done with it!


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 Post subject: Re: tiller, broken, cheep
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:55 pm 
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did you get it for $5.00?


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