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 Post subject: Re: Religious Usage
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:32 am 
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While the connections between smoking and heart disease or cancer are recent discoveries, even ancient Indians understood that tobacco can be lethal. The plant is extremely sticky and the sap gets on your hands, says Winter, giving a contact high that he has experienced in his greenhouse when he doesn't wear gloves. "People who spend all day long harvesting tobacco barehanded suffer nicotine poisoning, called green-tobacco poisoning," a disease that continues to kill members of a tobacco-growing tribe in Northern Mexico that Winter has been studying.

And did these early growers understand the addictive nature of tobacco? "Of course," says Winter. "Tobacco is the food of the spirits. Some tribes believe the spirits themselves are addicted, and thus need tobacco to survive." Says Winter, "Sacred tobacco is strikingly similar to sacrificial wine, the blood of Christ. Both are the sources of tremendous power and are intended to be used only in minute amounts." In the most common tobacco ritual, for example, celebrants take four puffs from a ceremonial pipe, one puff for each of the four directions. Another common ritual is to sprinkle sacred tobacco on the fires of a sweat lodge. Smoke in these rituals carries prayers to the Creator and is also a bodily cue to open the spirit. It is the same sort of cue St. Benedict invoked in praying, "Inebriate me, Lord."

Perhaps the most fascinating part of the sacred tobacco ritual is the use of the leather pouch. Packed with sticky, "hi-test" tobacco and slung against the chest, the thin leather pouch may be the functional equivalent of a modern nicotine patch -- which suggests that even thousands of years ago Native Americans had a sophisticated and relatively healthy relationship with nicotine.

http://www.spiritualityhealth.com/NMaga ... php?id=895

Here is link to the full article. I thought it was very informative. Not the religious part, that is one man's opinion. But the green tobacco high and leather pouch.


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 Post subject: Re: Religious Usage
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:56 pm 
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More trivia!

The ancient Mayans used tobacco, in an unusual fashion

Wild tobacco (Nicotiana rustica), that is stronger than the domestic and could be hallucinogen, and other species of plants were smoked or administered in enemas to induce a trance-like state, (ingesting psychoactive drugs anally produces a more powerful and instantaneous reaction than drugs taken orally).

For the entire article here is the link:

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The tobacco reference is quite a ways into the article.


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 Post subject: Re: Religious Usage
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Not far from my house is a cemetery that has been in use for around a hundred years. Portland has long had a thriving Gypsy community and Rose City Cemetery seems to be a favored resting place for many members of their families. Sometimes at holiday times, I walk through the cemetery with friends to see how the Gypsies have decorated their graves. At holidays like Christmas or Mother's Day graves that have been occupied for 40 or 50 years are decorated with as much care as more recent ones. For Easter or Father's Day, the graves of grandfather aged men are often blessed with fresh cigars. Men whose lives ended in their prime often have an open pack of cigarettes and an open beer near the headstone.

I have never witnessed the leaving of the gifts, but can only imagine that little kids have an important part. Imagine the sense of continuity that they have with prior generations and as being part of the continuing Romani culture. Tobacco seems to be an important part.

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Anyone still interested in traditional tobacco?

OK, it's getting late in the season, but find a wolf pup to raise in the family. BTW, this is all of it a men's only project, because the pipe is a crutch which women use only during an emegancy. In fact, a lot of People will not do a pipe ceremony when a woman is present.

Got the pup? Good. When the time comes to transplant, the sacred-person will dig up the soil in one spot picked beforehand. The hole is not deep, but the wold is placed in it and strangled (I never said it was pretty, but Wolf is God, and Tobacco is his sacred herb, tsilov, Beloved Speaker). Wolf is buried and the first transplant is placed over his burial mound. Singing prayers, the men take digging sticks and open holes for each plant. A small fish is added to bring the Mother of Waters to bless the patches. The plants are delicate and delicious to deer and rabbits, so each patch is inside the stockade.

when the plant blooms, each married man tries to be home because women, it's said, cannot resist the scent of tobacco flowers.


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I am told traditionally, in Abenaki tribes only men over 30 or married are allowed to smoke tobacco.


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 Post subject: Re: Religious Usage
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NRustica wrote:
I am told traditionally, in Abenaki tribes only men over 30 or married are allowed to smoke tobacco.

Interesting. Was it sign of becoming a tribe elder or just a custom/rule?


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