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 Post subject: Don't think I used this Old World Shredder right...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:33 am 
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I picked this tobacco shredder up in an antique store a few weeks ago.
I figured using it would be pretty simple but the results were iffy at best.

I had a bunch of leaves in my humidor about 60% RH and fed em though it and this was the result.

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(that's a dime for size reference.

I got a lot of little pieces of crumpled up leaves and dust. I feel like I could have done the same by just crumpling it up with my hands.
Any one have any time/ideas for this shredder? Maybe higher case?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:47 am 
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Boy are YOU gonna be in trouble for using that cast iron grinder on the counter top !!!

Danger, Will Robinson !!!

I think I would get an old wooden work-table from that Junque store to avoid problems!

Yes, you could experiment with case by testing the shred at a few different humidity levels.
Seems to me that might work well enough, though.

Gosh, when I was a kid we smoked Bull Durham tobacco that came in a little cloth bag with a draw string top.
It was smallish, very dry little pebbles of baccy leaf. Thin, too... like silkleaf.
It even came with a packet of un-gummed papers!

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No Rizla packet, and I think a bag was 65 cents???

:-)
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Well, Not a Kid Rock 'Radio Edit', but just had a thought on this shredder...
The shred size is probably not gonna improve with this machine because of it's limitations, those square posts doing the deed.
If you wish a ribbon cut of any size, you will need a device like the Teck 1 that uses sharpened blades.

A cheap pair of scissors from the dollar store, imported all the way from china, does a respectable job of shredding leaf.
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See if you can sharpen those blades. If it aint slicing, its chopping.


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lov, it can not slice.
it has no blades!
physics kinda gets in the way.

No matter...
Shred will burn just as well as ribbons.

It may even transfer an ember better??? ...if an edge is raggedly torn, as opposed to cleanly sheared.
What do you think?

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Would be a pain in a cigarette but maybe good for pipe tobacco?

I would try a higher case and see if that helps.


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Higher case, not on the counter. Sounds like a plan haha

I'll give that a go. Hopefully the humidity increases soon so I can just put by box of leaf from last year outside till it's good and pliable.


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No blades? Well shucks, russ! What on earth are these then?

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Yeah it's got blades and they're pretty sharp. I can pick up a file and see if I can get em sharper.

Also, can you smoke a chopped up shred like that in a pipe? I s'pose I could try... haha I feel like the flat pieces would lay flat on each other and no air could pass through. It'd be hard to pack just right. I had that problem with wider ribbon cuts the first time I used I knife.


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JAK wrote:

Also, can you smoke a chopped up shred like that in a pipe? I s'pose I could try... haha I feel like the flat pieces would lay flat on each other and no air could pass through. It'd be hard to pack just right. I had that problem with wider ribbon cuts the first time I used I knife.



Oh, I dunno! I thought pipe tobacco came in flakes that that. Maybe im mistaken, Ive never bought pipe tobacco before.


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Baylor wrote:
JAK wrote:

Also, can you smoke a chopped up shred like that in a pipe? I s'pose I could try... haha I feel like the flat pieces would lay flat on each other and no air could pass through. It'd be hard to pack just right. I had that problem with wider ribbon cuts the first time I used I knife.



Oh, I dunno! I thought pipe tobacco came in flakes that that. Maybe im mistaken, Ive never bought pipe tobacco before.

Pipe tobacco is very different depending on the cut and the brand; Most known are the ribboned, shag cut (finer cut ribbon) and the flake.
Flake is ususally pressed to a plate and sold in flakes, which then is either crumbeled and stuffed in the pipe as ribbon or shag cut or is carefully rolled or folded into the pipe.
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Ahh thanks for clearing that up Catman. :D


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By Golly you are right, lov !
Thanks for pointing that out!!!

and I woulda just stuck my finger in there to see why it wasn't working the way I wanted it to, before I hit it with a hammer!

Once, I had this turrable itch in my nose... a large part in my left hand, and a cordless drill in my right... I was up on a ladder...

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Nah, that wasn't me. It's a pic that was making the rounds on the contractor forums back when I was working, and scouring them for helpful information. There was always plenty of talk about hiring helpers...

With those coarse, cast iron stubs on the drum, I suspect there might be an issue with clearance to the knives, sharp, or not. What do you think?
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Baylor wrote:
Ahh thanks for clearing that up Catman. :D



Yeah I had no idea how to use flakes. I thought you had to rub them out but the fold and stuff method... I GOTTA try that. Just watched a few youtubers do that.

Also, flake looks easier to make. Press in to bricks and slice thin. I think I can manage that and save the shredder for other uses. Still gonna see how it works on some higher case leaves.


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When you are cruising that Junque Store, you could look for an old straight razor for shaving slices off your plug???

...and I don't think a file would be good, unless it's a really fine Swiss file... but you could use a ladies fine diamond fingernail file. I don't think I would tell her, though...

Some 600 grit wet and dry, glued onto a popsicle stick could work well. Unless the edge is really mangled.

By golly get a 2nd opinion! lol
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Here's a pic inside my Ice-O-Mat
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Yah, it was coarse, but did a dandy job of winding up most the veins in a leaf. Then I shredded them again in another device.
Buncha pics in my gallery pics of different 'junque store' devices I've played around with.
Cheep fun!
:-)
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