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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:33 pm 
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My Shredder entered the Twilight Zone it's been in transit from NORTH SALT LAKE, UT for 4 days now
It left SYRACUSE, NY 5 days ago and hasn't showed up any where since,.. Salt Lake is 800 miles from my place
according to yahoo maps. It was posted as going to be delivered on the 17th so they got a little over 24 hours
to get it here on time. It's been 7 days since it was picked up in Canada.


Date/Time Activity Location Details
Nov 12, 2010 8:15 PM In transit NORTH SALT LAKE, UT
Nov 11, 2010 11:58 AM Departed FedEx location SYRACUSE, NY
Nov 11, 2010 1:03 AM Arrived at FedEx location SYRACUSE, NY
Nov 10, 2010 8:11 PM Int'l shipment release ALBANY, NY
Nov 10, 2010 6:57 PM Departed FedEx location ALBANY, NY
Nov 10, 2010 5:47 PM Arrived at FedEx location ALBANY, NY
Nov 10, 2010 7:21 AM Departed FedEx location DORVAL, QC
Nov 9, 2010 7:11 PM Arrived at FedEx location DORVAL, QC
Nov 9, 2010 3:30 PM Picked up DORVAL, QC


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:32 am 
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QC ????

Is that Quebec ???

Dorval, Quebec ??? Wow!

Kinda DOES feel like a Rod Serling thingy ! :lol:

Hey Tax !

What kinda injector do you use?
Do you recommend it?

I just got a auger machine... gonna take it back in a few minutes. :twisted:

One way or t' other, I'll post the whole story, with pictures, so everyone can benefit from my latest escapade !

Best
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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:49 am 
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It's here, I tried a few leaves and it works perfect I ran it through the spaghetti part fist and it shredded it in long strips,
then I ran it through the fettuccine part and its a real good size, I tried a third run back into the spaghetti just too see
what it would do and it cut it like a store bought rolled tobacco like in to little flakes. All uniform in size that's
what I like the best all uniform size.

I use an tube injector it's blue but I don't see a brand name on it.
I really don't have any more real leaves to test it on
What I did test it on was a couple dried out leaves that were hanging off of a seed topping I had left and there only
about 4 inches long

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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
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The cigarette burned pretty evenly but man that burley straight off of the plant is pretty
raspy...... I think I'm getting a buzz
Any way I'm happy with the machine It's better than that paper shredder I used.


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:05 pm 
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Rust,
I use the Top O Matic T2 and highly recommend it.Can make a pack in just over 2 minutes.

Did away with the little rubber grabber(actually i think my mut ate it)So, just use my left thumb to support the tube and the fingers to support the handle.Amazingly haven't punctured my thumb yet after many many cartons. :o


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:09 pm 
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Taxed..are you sure about that?
I have a Supermatic and a regular Topomatic, not a T2 and I can get fast but a pack in just past 2 minutes? You must pack your cigs very light.
I find that a lot depends on the shred and type of tobacco used and how much shake you have in your tobacco.
I first used a Supermatic and loved it until I got the Topomatic. I loved the Topomatic more but sometimes it just doesn't do the job. I now find that depending on the Home Grown or the Roll Your Own...both machines handle tobacco quite differently at different times and also depends on the dryness or hydration of the tobacco.
But a pack of 20 in 2 minutes? Maybe I need to purchase a T2? I am not fast but have been told I am Half-Fast! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:29 pm 
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I have a Top-o-matic and I usually make up a couple packs while watching TV at night. I'm not that fast, but can leisurely punch out a pack of 20 during commercial breaks (3 to 4 minutes) so Tax'd isn't far off.


edit>> I just timed myself, at a leisurely pace it took me 5:12 minutes for 20 and that's with tapping and packing, so I can see 2 minutes at a racing pace no problem.


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:31 pm 
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Have you guys seen this electric cigarette maker on youtube ?
It makes 10 at a time
You load the tubes up like a Gatling gun and press the go button

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opfQZA96ME8&NR=1


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:35 pm 
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OK< OK !

I know I'm nearly dumb as a fence post, but I can still hold up a few strands of bob-wire !

I was hoping to get a T2 and saw the Golden Valley auger machine in the neighborhood smoke shop. I always, well mostly, like to support local merchants when I can. Samir ain't so bad, and the cutie punked-out shop girl is fun... she's a walkin' talkin' side-show!

So tell me about the injectors, guys....

Will they handle our homegrown well enough?
My scissor cut is not near 1mm... more like pipe tobacco cut.
Will they pack a ciggie well enough so it doesn't burn real fast and harsh ?

This chineez auger said it performs best with 'expanded tobacco'.
I still ain't xactly sure what THAT is, but figger maybe it's the 1mm shred ????

I grabbed a small bag of storebought shred, just to use in the machine... another discount offering... Sparrow Brand... nothing great... no better than my homegrown Burley 21.

The auger machine just will NOT feed it properly.
I think it wants to see pebbles... kinda like the old Bull Durham in a bag !

Anyhow, what humidity level do the injectors like best ?

I don't have a spiffy moisture meter like Lonnie got now, but I got a wallyworld humidity meter I can drop in a jar of shred to test it...

Tnx
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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:44 pm 
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rusty,
I've used store bought baccy, Bugler in a can, shredded with my pasta machine, and cut with scissors, and all works well in my Top-o-matic.
only time my "Top" has problems is if I feed it really fine or dusty baccy.

it takes some "feel" to get used to not packing too tightly, or too loosly, but you can "inject" 20 cigs in 5 minutes easy once you get the hang of it.

I find if I use pipe cut I have to pack a little different, and a little looser if using fine cut bugler, and more tight if using my own shred.
bottom line is, you can inject anything once you get the feel for it.


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:58 pm 
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That Gatling Gun seems to work good, Dan !

How much do those sell for?

These are like the one I got... Mine is a reddish orange plastic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGWYhdLV ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiUbIfqQ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X-H_eJx ... re=related

This last one actually shows the wonderful sound the 'powerful motor' actually makes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by1B3JLf ... re=related

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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:04 am 
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That Gatling Gun seems to work good, Dan !

How much do those sell for?


I don't think they have it on the market yet I read the comments below the video
and the guys are still working the bugs out. Evidently it is auger fed and that could
be a problem if the tobacco isn't dried properly.


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:45 pm 
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ColeJ and Taxed. I do not think either of you has a second hand on your watch..plus tamping? No way.


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:45 am 
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baccerman wrote:
ColeJ and Taxed. I do not think either of you has a second hand on your watch..plus tamping? No way.


Back when I started (RYO) and people talked of a five minute pack I thought that they were shittin.
After years of practice I run a pack in about 3 min. so a two min. pack is very possible if you tend to business. I get in no hurry.
As has been mentioned the touch,feel,and case has everything to do with your speed and quality. (I can't remember the last time that I had to tamp one)

-J.C.-


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 Post subject: Re: pocket shredder
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:20 am 
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baccerman,
I had the wife time me 'cuz I don't wear a watch ( :lol: )
I got out 12 cigs in 2 minutes, 20 in just under 4 minutes - no tamp, just let it fall of the injector and right on to the next one

John is right on that it has to be in a proper case and proper cut and plenty of practice.

if your cut is too long you will waste a lot of time trying to stuff in the injector. too dry and it takes longer
now in the video I made about various rolling methods it took me about 18 secs using the injector, but I was doing a lot of talking and describing how it's done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvkt8Q2zNQQ

practice my friend, practice and you'll get it down under 5

@ J.C,
I still "tamp" my cigs out of habit before packing them up


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