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 Post subject: Perique: What makes it special?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:03 pm 
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I know it's flavor is unique. Any members tried it? How would you describe it's flavor? It's strength? Also I've heard that its flavor is characteristic of the plant but also heard that its due to the Louisiana delta soil and have even heard its the way it's cured. Any info would be greatly appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:37 pm 
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In my opinion its a somewhat peppery note on the tongue. I have seen photos on the web of the way its made and it looks like its stored in barrels under pressure so that it ferments in o=its own juices. Personally I found it okay but i wouldnt rave about it. Though i haven't tried it straight just in blends.


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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I made some a few years ago and so have a few other members. The consensus seems to be that Perique's unique flavor is due to the process of making it and not the location where it is grown.

Randy B


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:13 am 
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I agree with JBD. The process (pressure fermentation) seems to impart a distinctive "Perique" flavor, aroma and notably high pH to whatever variety has been used. Though soil always contributes to the character of the final product, it is a subtle influence.

The Perique variety that I have grown (supplied by New Hope Seed) grows as a vigorous orinoco-type plant, and yields a richly flavored air-cured leaf that contributes a medium-strength taste and aroma to cigar filler.

So, while the folks down in St. James Parrish, Louisiana would like to suggest that their product is a mysterious and unique blessing of their particular spot on earth, the mystique of Perique (¿Perique mystique?) can be attributed mostly--if not entirely--to their odd pressure-curing process, and can be pretty much duplicated by anyone with the passion to construct a press capable of maintaining ~50 psi for many months.

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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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Thank you all very much! I really appreciate you all taking the time out of your busy day to help me with my research. Another question: is there any concensus on if a higher PSI system would decrease fermentation time?


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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My impression is that the pressure accomplishes two goals:
  • disruption of the laminar cell walls
  • expression of intracellular fluid

When pressure is released, the juices that were squeezed out are reabsorbed, along with their microbial freeloaders. This is usually performed several times during the many months of fermentation. So this is actually a true fermentative process. Pressure that is too low (I'm guessing less than ~30 psi) may break down the cell walls, but will not fully express the fluid. Pressure that is significantly higher is unlikely to accelerate the microbial process.

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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:58 am 
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That certainly makes sense Bob! Now let me ask you this: do you think that there would be a US market for authenticly Grown and cured Perique? Or do you think that the standard of simply adding flavoring to achieve the flavor has satisfied American hobby smokers?


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:48 am 
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Jim.schotter wrote:
That certainly makes sense Bob! Now let me ask you this: do you think that there would be a US market for authenticly Grown and cured Perique? Or do you think that the standard of simply adding flavoring to achieve the flavor has satisfied American hobby smokers?

I think there's definitely a market, especially since most of us don't have the equipment to make it. I just smoked a cigarette made from
American Spirit Perique Blend. I had it laying around and this thread made me bring it out again.


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:05 pm 
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Of course there's a market for Perique. All the pipe tobacco blenders buy it from St. James Parrish (the world's single supplier, in fact). You can make your own, but it would be a challenge to market, regardless of how good it is. The wider market is already cornered by the traditional source.

http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/put-that- ... f-perique/

Bob


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:13 pm 
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IMO, St. James Parish is what makes it unique.

I had tried some perique-styled tobacco Don made a few years ago, and liked it in the blend.
...he, said he did NOT care for it...

basically, he fermented it in a charred box, under pressure.

always fun to experiment!
rc


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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3 years back I grew a batch. As Bob says, the plants were definitely a unique shape, similar to my current Lizard Tail Orinoco x Turtlefoot plants.

It was dried and kiln-cured along with the rest of my plants, and was by far the most pungent flavour of any I've had before or since. Too strong for my taste, even blended 5 - 10% in mixture.

Don't plan to grow it again - anybody want some seed?


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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jack in nb wrote:
3 years back I grew a batch. As Bob says, the plants were definitely a unique shape, similar to my current Lizard Tail Orinoco x Turtlefoot plants.

It was dried and kiln-cured along with the rest of my plants, and was by far the most pungent flavour of any I've had before or since. Too strong for my taste, even blended 5 - 10% in mixture.

Don't plan to grow it again - anybody want some seed?


Wow Jack, I grew a few plants of perique from BigBonner this year [6-8]and I haven't kilned any yet but I definetly liked it. I've been smoking it with a bit of fire cured in a bezuki wrapper. It burns realy well and has a good flavor as far as raw leaf goes.


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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I am a big fan of Perique. I have mixed it in about every pipe blend in my cellar. I especially like it mixed with quality Virginia. It goes through a long fermentation process that is much better described by master blender and friend Russ Ouellette. Here is an article he wrote for pipes magazine that is very informative.

http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/put-that- ... t-perique/


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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Crap!!! I see that Bob beat me to it. lol oops. I just got excited.


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 Post subject: Re: Perique: What makes it special?
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shawn622 wrote:
. It goes through a long fermentation process http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/put-that- ... t-perique/


More correctly stated: It goes though a different fermentaion process than regular tobacco.


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