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 Post subject: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:52 am 
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I thought it might be a nice stickie to have in the Tobacco Strains section.

A list of strains with pics at various stages of development.

I know I could use it right now.

I planted Silk Leaf but I have 1 plant that is very obviously different from the rest and I would love to know what it is.

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I could use such a thread to identify it.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:31 pm 
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Thanks for the reply FmGrowIt.

Hope you can shed some light with these pics.

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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:38 pm 
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Looks really healthy whatever it is. Looks like the leaves are darker than most and very smooth. Perhaps some kind of cigar wrapper? I'm just guessing. I'm new at this tobacco growing thing. Guess you'll have to smoke it and see if you like it. Maybe you should let it seed just incase you really like it.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:37 am 
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The leaves kinda look Silkleafish.Wonder if it bolted with that wide spacing between the leaves.Is that a bud forming?

Bob grew alot of silk and maybe he will chime in with thoughts.

Could be retard also :shock:

Mark in Wi


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:56 pm 
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The guy that sent me the seed said it could only be Madole or Burly (which he purchased but it doesn't look like either of these), Silkleaf or Havana Redleaf which were his own seed. The plant came out of the packet labelled SilkLeaf.

Is it possible it is a hybrid?

The older leaves don't look much like SilkLeaf.

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But the newer ones do a bit more.

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All my SilkLeaf have gone to flower but I don't think this one has.
Not seeing any buds as yet.

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New growth looks like this.

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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:03 am 
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Silver River?

Is that what you think it is FmGrowIt?


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:38 am 
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person1 wrote:
I thought it might be a nice stickie to have in the Tobacco Strains section.

A list of strains with pics at various stages of development.

I know I could use it right now.

I planted Silk Leaf but I have 1 plant that is very obviously different from the rest and I would love to know what it is.

I could use such a thread to identify it.


Howdy,

My first thought when I saw the picture was madole, I grew three plants last year and it had a narrow long dark green leaf. My madole was very mild, almost bland (all by itself) and was great blended in with stronger varieties to help mellow it out. I'm growing 8 plants this year. As far as the picture database, NewHope.com has the best site for getting an idea of what different varieties should look like. Hope that helps -- Chuck.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:36 pm 
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Yup New Hope has about 4 pic ( for most ) strains . Showing plants in several stages of growth and while flowering .

btw

The leafs look more like sucker growth to me than a plant but I can see that it's not unless you rooted a sucker . Them new leafs sure match the description or name I guess ( Silver River ) . Deffently a white/silver color .


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:14 pm 
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FmGrowIt wrote:
Silver River is a good guess out of 2,000 varieties, but it a bad guess out of four varieties (especially when one of the four isn't Silver River :D). I'd go along with Chucks guess (since he grew it before and it's one of the choices))


Ah Shucks! If only I was that lucky on the lottery!! Of course, I didn't know about the banana trees, that must have been from Don's extensive covert ops in Central and South America! LOL!! Looking over the pictures it looks like you have hornworms on you're plants. You may want to dust them with some Sevin Dust or something similar. Chuck.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:34 pm 
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Well, on a different topic about this plant. If it's your only one, you probably should bag it for the seed incase you really like it. If you don't then you won't be growing it again.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:33 am 
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I can see a few similarities but perhaps my plant isn't mature enough.


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Madole from www.newhopeseed.com
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I supose I'll go with Chuck's guess. This plant was started in mid summer and has not gone to flower, even though every one of my Slikleafs did.

I'll keep it going till it flowers just in case.

Re Hornworms, I can live with them as long as they don't cause too much damage. I would prefer manual control over chemical. I very rarely us any chemical control in my garden.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:01 pm 
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person1 wrote:
I can see a few similarities but perhaps my plant isn't mature enough.
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I supose I'll go with Chuck's guess. This plant was started in mid summer and has not gone to flower, even though every one of my Slikleafs did.

I'll keep it going till it flowers just in case.

Re Hornworms, I can live with them as long as they don't cause too much damage. I would prefer manual control over chemical. I very rarely us any chemical control in my garden.


Unfortunately, I didn't take any pictures of my madole as it was maturing last year, but it had a nice smooth dark green leaf like your plant. The ripe leaves looked like the new hope picture.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:09 am 
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Looks like a madole I had a couple of years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:35 am 
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Hi --

It doesn't look like Silk Leaf at all, even the immature Silk Leaf and those which bolt to flower early with the pointy leaves have the leaf surface continuing wider to the stalk.

See this --

Turkish grown tobaccos can be classified into two different groups according to their physical make-up : plants with petiole leaves on the one hand and those with sessile leaves on the other. Tobacco with a sessile leaf is referred to as "kulaklı, yaşmaklı or basma," whereas the plants producing medium-size, broad winged leaves in this group are called "kabakulak" The petiole leaf is commonly referred to as "başıbağlı". There are however another types in the same group with a naked petiole which are called "yaşmaksız".

http://www.yapraktutun.gov.tr/ing/TobaccoOfTurkey/Agriculture.aspx

Looks like one of the ones with a naked petiole to me. That's my best guess as far as family of plants goes.

Bob


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 Post subject: Re: Identify This Plant
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:44 am 
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Thanks Bob

Thats an interesting site, nice how it shows the leaf shapes.


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