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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:55 pm 
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From looking at the aditives in dip and snuff it seems there is a certan type of soda added to raise the PH or alkalinity of the toacco.

Is this Sodium Carbonate? If so will Sodium Bicarbonate work too??

Thanks :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:35 pm 
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Yeah I just use baking soda. If you heat a small pan of baking soda for a certain amount of time at a certain temp it will turn into sodium carbonate. I don't remember the numbers but do a web search if you want to know. I did this the first couple of times I made up chew. I had no way of knowing if what I had was sodium carbonate. I no longer do this as I feel its a waste of time. Baking soda is a base so I decided it should be fine. The ph of sodium bicarbonate is 8.4 and sodium carbonate is 11.6. I will leave it up to you to decide if this difference is enough to try and make or purchase sodium carbonate


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:16 am 
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Keep in mind that you do not automatically have to add something to your chew just because a manufacturer does. I do not use anything to raise the pH of my chew and it is perfect.


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:43 am 
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jbd, have you posted your recipe?

What strain do you use for your base?

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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:31 pm 
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I'm pretty sure I've posted variations of my chew recipe before but if not, here it is again

Take 1 handful of shredded tobacco and put in a pan.
Add 1 Tablespoon of water
Add sweetener to your liking. I use liquid neotame because I do not want sugar rotting my teeth. I also like to use Xylitol because it is a non fermentable sweetener that also prevent cavities ( but it in not required). If you use regular sugar I would suggest starting with 2 tsp.
Use a flavoring agent of your choice. I like apple flavoring from LorAnn oils. It's very potent, 1 dropper-full will do.
Mix together and just warm it up on a stove.
If it is a little to wet, cook for a minute more or just let it set on the counter overnight to dry out.
Very simple!

The entire process should take about 2 or 3 minutes.


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:11 pm 
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Its that simple... wow.... If you put a pinch of sodium bi in there while frying would it add more kick to it?
Also what tobacco do you use ???


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:49 am 
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I like Yellow Twist Bud, Yellow Orinoco and even Perique


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:55 am 
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Found a chemistry site and they said to bake baking soda for 1 hr.at 200 degrees f. and it changes to sodium carbonate.


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:50 pm 
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I always thought that when baking soda was baked it turned into CO2 and H20 :?

What was the name of the site??


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:08 am 
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Dont recall. Googled sodium carbonate and found it.


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 Post subject: Re: Sodium
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:13 pm 
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jw517,

It seems we are both right :wink:

The site is http://chemistry.about.com/od/makechemi ... g-Soda.htm

It says that if you bake Sodium Bicarbonate at 200 for 1 hour it turns to Sodium Carbonate. But it also says that Carbon dioxide and water will be given off and sodium carbonate will remain. :mrgreen:


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We are so smart!!!!


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